How Should Christians Think About Israel? Session 2

Chris Gordon, Dan Borvan, and Lee Irons walk through Romans 9–11 to answer the question of what Christians should think about Israel, then field live audience questions on the Israel–Hamas conflict, dispensationalism, and the return of Christ.
Title
How Should Christians Think About Israel? Session 2
Summary
Chris Gordon, Dan Borvan, and Lee Irons walk through Romans 9–11 to answer the question of what Christians should think about Israel, then field live audience questions on the Israel–Hamas conflict, dispensationalism, and the return of Christ.
Published
Oct 26, 2026
Hosted By
Pastor Chris Gordon
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Show Notes

Recorded live at Santa Clarita United Reformed Church, this episode picks up where the previous conversation left off: if God's promises to Israel have not failed, how should the church think about ethnic Jews today? Rev. Chris Gordon, Rev. Dan Borvan, and Dr. Lee Irons trace Paul's argument through Romans 9–11 — the distinction between Israel according to the flesh and the Israel of God, why Israel stumbled by seeking righteousness through the law rather than by faith, Paul's own testimony as proof of a believing remnant, and the olive tree analogy in which Gentiles are grafted in as full members of the one people of God. Along the way they explain why the inclusion of the Gentiles was never "Plan B," warn against Gentile arrogance, and weigh the Reformed interpretations of "all Israel will be saved." The solution, they argue, is not political but the one Paul himself gives: preach Christ to Jew and Gentile alike.

Chapters:
1:17 Where We Left Off: A Biblical Solution to the Israel Question
2:59 Romans 9: Not All Israel Is Israel
4:39 Why Israel Stumbled: Righteousness by Law vs. by Faith
6:50 Romans 10: Faith Comes by Hearing, No Distinction Between Jew and Greek
7:54 Romans 11: Has God Rejected His People? Paul and the Remnant
10:08 Remnant Theology: Elijah and the 7,000
10:45 Not Plan B: Israel's Stumbling and the Inclusion of the Gentiles
11:59 Provoking Israel to Jealousy by Preaching Their Messiah
14:24 The Olive Tree: Gentiles Grafted In as Full Members of Israel
16:48 The Solution Isn't Rocket Science: Preach Christ
18:05 Something Demonic: Hatred of the Jews Throughout History
19:30 A Warning to the Gentiles: Do Not Be Arrogant
21:25 "All Israel Will Be Saved": Mass Conversion or the Israel of God?
24:46 Two Views Within the Reformed Tradition
26:19 Q&A: How Should Christians Think About the Israel–Hamas Conflict?
27:50 Whatever Happened to Just War Theory?
29:20 Supporting Israel on Practical, Not Theological, Grounds
32:36 Q&A: Jacob's Ladder and John 1:51
34:26 Q&A: Classical vs. Progressive Dispensationalism
37:48 Q&A: Can Christ Return Today? The Man of Lawlessness
41:36 Apocalyptic Literature and Hermeneutical Humility
44:53 Lessons from History: The 1520s, Luther, and Harold Camping
46:40 Don't Lose "Be Ready": Like a Thief in the Night
48:47 Closing: An Invitation to Santa Clarita URC

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